These questions I've received way back in 2010. Back at that time I was very active writing in forums and I've seen many interesting questions. The below is a conversation between me and anonymous person who I believe is a Jew. Well, from how he speak it tells me he must be a Jew.
So here I would like to share with our readers on this very interesting topic. The below questions was actually the last 2 questions addressed to me which both are the most interesting questions from the whole conversation.
Question:
"Anyway, for any command of killing
the disbelievers only to be used during battlefield and towards the war
prisoners"
Where is this stated? Or are you just assuming that's what it means?
Oh, and one more question--I know that in the Hadith (I forget which verse specifically but I believe it is Sahih Muslim--"The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the Stone and the tree will say, O Muslim, O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.") Does it make it difficult for you to be friends with Jews when, presumably, you believe that you must kill them when/if the time arises? It seems that it would be a bit difficult to make friends with Jews under this circumstance, yes?
Where is this stated? Or are you just assuming that's what it means?
Oh, and one more question--I know that in the Hadith (I forget which verse specifically but I believe it is Sahih Muslim--"The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and the Stone and the tree will say, O Muslim, O servant of God! There is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.") Does it make it difficult for you to be friends with Jews when, presumably, you believe that you must kill them when/if the time arises? It seems that it would be a bit difficult to make friends with Jews under this circumstance, yes?
Answer:
Salam,
1) As I said, if you want to understand it
you got to read the whole book. At least read the whole surah. To make it easy
for you to understand you may get your self the Quran with translation and
commentary by Abdullah Yusuf Ali. With the help of the commentary you will be
able to understand the verse better as it will explains about the verse. For
me, it really helps me to understand the Quran better. Here is the commentary
for the 2 surahs that you have mentioned earlier:
For
Surah Al-Maidah Verse 51, the commentary by Abdullah Yusuf Ali:
That is, look not to them for help and
comfort. They are more likely to combine against you than to help you. And this
happened more than once in the lifetime of the Prophet, and in after-ages again
and again.
He who associates with them and shares
their counsels must be counted as of them. The trimmer loses whichever way the
wheel of fortune turns.
For
Surah At-Tawbah Verse 29, the commentary by Abdullah Yusuf Ali:
Jizyah: the root meaning is compensation.
The derived meaning, which became the
technical meaning, was a poll-tax levied from those who did not accept Islam,
but were willing to live under the protection of Islam, and were thus tacitly
willing to submit to its ideals being enforced in the Muslim State.
There are no amount permanently fixed for
it. It was in acknowledgement that those whose religion was tolerated would in
their turn not interfere with the preaching and progress of Islam. Imam Shafi’i
suggests one dinar per year, which would be the Arabian gold dinar of the
Muslim States.
The tax varied in amount, and there were
exemptions for the poor, for females and children (according to Abu Hanifa),
for slaves, and for monks and hermits. Being a tax on able-bodied males of
military age, it was in a sense a commutation for military service.
In the last line of the verse it says - عَن يَدٍ وَهُمْ صَاغِرُونَ
It reads: AAan yadin wahum saghiroon.
AAan Yadin – literally, from the hand, has
been variously interpreted. The hand being the symbol of power and authority. I
accept the interpretation ‘in token of willing submission.’
The Jizya was thus partly symbolic and
partly a commutation for military service, but as the amount was insignificant
and the exemptions numerous, its symbolic character predominated.
Answering to this question: Where is this
stated? Or are you just assuming that's what it means?
Answer: I have already explained it to you.
Refer to Surah Al-Baqarah Verse 190-194
In Surah Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 Verse 190-194:
Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress.
Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors. And kill them wherever you overtake
them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse
than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you
there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the
disbelievers. And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged
to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except
against the oppressors. [Fighting in] the sacred month is for [aggression
committed in] the sacred month, and for [all] violations is legal retribution.
So whoever has assaulted you, then assault him in the same way that he has
assaulted you. And fear Allah and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
The Muslims are only allowed to fight against those who intend to
harm them (for self-defense) and that if their enemies surrender, they must
also stop because God does not like those who transgress limits.
For your information, Islam tells the us to avoid any kind of
assumptions. So I do not assume or interpret the Quran according to my
preference. Quran was sent down to Prophet Muhammad s.a.w so that he can teach
and guide mankind to the right path. It is not for anyone to assume or
interpret it according to their own preference. The meaning of every verse has
been explained by the Prophet Muhammad s.a.w. The commentary that I told you
earlier, is to explained the meaning of the verses of the Quran following the
teaching of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w through the book of Hadeeth.
2) “The last hour will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews
and the Muslims kill them, so that Jews will hide behind stones and trees and
the Stone and the tree will say, O Muslim, O servant of God! There is a Jew
behind me; come and kill him."
- This hadeeth is a prophecy mentioned by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w
about the sign of Qiamat under the topic of Sign of Qiamat. In the Quran
mentioned many times about there is no one would know about the coming of
Qiamat except Allah Ta’ala and only Him who knows about it. Somehow the sign
was given to us to warn us. The Hadeeth above, some Ulama and Scholars say that
the Prophet was speaking in metaphorically.
As you can see today the Jews are scattered around the western
world. For instance: In America. It is hard for you to recognize them. You
can’t tell if they are Jews or not, they mixed and live in the western society.
It is hard for us to differentiate between Jews and the whites as many Jews
already adopted the identity of the whites. They have English-sounds name, the
looks like them, they sound and speak like them (whites). Today we may find big
name Hollywood Celebrities, or big-guys from Wallstreet and the government of America are
Jews. If no one ever mentioned about their blood-line, nobody can tell that
they are Jews. The Jews are hiding behind the identity of the westerners.
At the time of the revelation of the Qur’an, and for more than a
thousand years thereafter, Christians and Jews were locked in a relationship of
such mutual hatred that it was impossible to conceive of a future
Christian-Jewish reconciliation, friendship and mutual alliance.
After all, the
Gospel itself had recorded the exclusive Jewish role in the demand for Christ’s
crucifixion, in addition to the fact that the Roman government had opposed it
(John, 19:4-7). Christianity consistently, and quite correctly, blamed the Jews for demanding
that crucifixion. It created eternal hostility between the two religious
communities.
However, this extraordinary verse of the Qur’an actually
anticipated a time when the world would witness a strange and mysterious
reconciliation between these two foes, and the emergence of a Judeo-Christian
alliance. It is only in the modern age, when Gog and Magog have attacked
Euro-Christianity and Euro-Judaism and have transformed Europe into an
essentially godless secular society where men can legally marry men, that the
world has witnessed the amazing fulfillment of the divine prophecy in this
verse of the Qur’an (See chapter on Gog and Magog in ‘Jerusalem in the
Qur’an’).
It should be clear that the Qur’an has prohibited Muslims
from maintaining friendly ties with only that Judeo-Christian alliance and not
with all Christians and all Jews. The Qur’an has also warned those Muslims who
established ties of friendship with that Judeo-Christian alliance that is now ruling
the world, that Allah Most High would recognize them to be members of that
alliance (rather than the Muslim community), and would thus consider such
conduct the ultimate betrayal of Islam.
Euro-Christianity and Euro-Judaism have today joined in an
unholy alliance in order to conquer and rule the world from London,
Washington and Jerusalem while waging war on Islam. They do
so in order to deliver the rule over the world to an imposter Euro-Jewish State
of Israel - a state which they themselves created, and then seduced the
oriental Jews (i.e., the Israelite Jews) into accepting. That alliance is also
waging war on the religious way of life and in the process is transforming
almost the whole world to a state of decadence and godlessness.
– Taken from Neither
Friends or Allies by Imran Nazar Hosein.
3) I do not have any Jewish friend. I am not being racist, but you
cannot find Jews living here. But yes I have met them before. And they look
like a normal white American. I only got to know when they told me that they
are Jews. We speak like normal people and we have no problem whatsoever. The Quran say
that there are good people amongst them. And we were only told to fight those
who fight us. And also there are Jews who are Muslims and they believe in Islam
but majority of them are not. If happen to be that I will have a Jewish friend,
I will accept them for who they are. But if they join and attack the Muslims, I
will fight them. If they’re not, then I will do no harm onto them. We were only
told to fight those who fight us, not those who don’t. Since we are in this
topic let me share with you one story:
Once I was told a story by a learned man, who have an experience
living in the Jewish society. So one day he had a discussion of religious
matters with his Jewish friends. He asked them: Do you believe that Muhammad
s.a.w is the messenger of Allah? And they answer: Yes. So he was very surprise
and asked again: If yes, then why don’t you follow his teaching and be Muslims?
They answer: We are Jews, and Moses is for the people of Jews. So we only
follow Moses and will not follow Muhammad because he’s an Arab, not Jews.
QUESTION:
I'm afraid your "learned friend"
is lying. There is not a single Jew anywhere who believes that Mohammed was or
is in any way divinely inspired or a prophet. If a Jew believed that then by
definition he would not be a Jew anymore. And I'm sorry but I found your reply
to me extremely anti-Semitic. Jews did not willingly "adopt" the
identity of "whites". They were forced into Europe after the Romans
sacked Israel
and had to integrate into those societies. After thousands of years of
oppression and persecution they have finally started to be seen as equals.
Oh, and as one final note--only half of Jews worldwide are "white". The rest are Mizrahi or Sephardic ("dark" or "tan"). These people are the descendents of those Jews who were driven out of Arab countries in the 20th century.
Thank you for answering my questions, anyway.
Oh, and as one final note--only half of Jews worldwide are "white". The rest are Mizrahi or Sephardic ("dark" or "tan"). These people are the descendents of those Jews who were driven out of Arab countries in the 20th century.
Thank you for answering my questions, anyway.
Answer:
Shalom,
First of all about the story that I shared
with you, I wasn’t asking you to confirm if it’s true or if it’s a lie. You can
think whatever you like, and you may accuse if he was lying. I don’t
need you to believe in his story like I do. My intention was only sharing the
knowledge and my points of view.
Me, anti-semite? I'm not surprised to
hear that. It is very typical for everyone to label someone as anti-Semite
whenever they speak about the Jews. It seems like Jews are very sensitive
people. Anyway, it is up to you to think whatever you want. After all I was
only answering your questions. If you’re not happy and couldn’t agree with my
answer – it is your choice, your freedom. I have no rights to force you to
accepting my point of views and make you confirming everything I said is true.
Oh another thing, if you think that Muslims
were all trained to hate the Jews I can tell you that you are so wrong. Here I
quoted you the verse from the Holy Quran. Allah said:
O Children of Israel, remember My favor
that I have bestowed upon you and that I preferred you over the worlds. (Surah Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 Verse 47)
Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for
mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in
Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among
them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (Surah Ali Imran Chapter 3 Verse 110)
Now compare it to this:
Remember, and forget not, how thou provokedst the LORD thy
God to wrath in the wilderness: from the day that thou didst depart out of the land of Egypt, until ye came unto this place, ye
have been rebellious against the LORD.
Also in Horeb ye provoked the LORD to wrath, so that the LORD was angry
with you to have destroyed you. (The Old
Testament – Deuteronomy 9: 7-8)
For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel,
Ye are a stiffnecked people: (The Old
Testament – Exodus 33:5)
So my question here - does this mean that Moses was anti-Semite? (You don't have to answer, I already know the answer - I was just trying to pull your leg [metaphorically] by asking you this question)
It is a pleasure to have a chance to
discussing over these matters with you. And I am very grateful for this
opportunity. You are most welcome.
